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Police prowl square as muzzled survivors mark Tiananmen massacre quietly

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Police prowl square as muzzled survivors mark Tiananmen massacre quietly

04 June 2004 2339 hrs (SST)


BEIJING : Police swamped China’s Tiananmen Square, keeping dissent at bay on the 15th anniversary of a bloody pro-democracy crackdown as survivors and relatives privately mourned the hundreds who died.

With the event highly sensitive to the ruling Communist Party, few, if any, commemorations were taking place to mark the day when hundreds, perhaps thousands, of protestors were killed by Chinese troops.

Police vans criss-crossed the vast square in central Beijing constantly Friday, while on majestic Chang’an Avenue — the main route used by tanks and soldiers in 1989 — uniformed People’s Armed Police and undercover teams were out in force.

All traces of the bullet holes and tank tracks that scarred the area have long since been erased.

One wheelchair-bound man dared to protest, wearing a headband with a slogan on it. He managed to unveil and hold up a slip of paper before security forces pounced and took him away, an AFP photographer witnessed.

A group of middle-aged men and women, meanwhile, were seen being processed in the courtyard of the Tiananmen Square police station where detainees are first taken, although why they were there was not clear.

Police refused to comment.

While few in the capital dare to commemorate the massacre publicly, tens of thousands gathered in Hong Kong to light candles in an annual event to remember those who died.

In Washington, many of the student leaders of the 1989 protests who now live in exile in America held their own memorial in front of the Chinese embassy.

Taiwan, which split from mainland China in 1949, used the occasion to attack China’s poor human rights record and urge its leaders to move towards democracy.

And in India, Tibetans in exile voiced solidarity with the Chinese pro-democracy movement, using the anniversary to urge greater freedom for Chinese-ruled Tibet.

The only candles being lit in Beijing were behind closed doors, and even then it was far from safe.

“They threatened to take me away if I lit a candle,” Hu Jia, a leading Tiananmen and AIDS activist, told AFP from his Beijing home where he is under house arrest.

In the lead-up to the anniversary, China’s secretive state security police placed known dissidents under house arrest and even forced some from their homes to hotels outside the Chinese capital.

Universities were monitored by a state security police taskforce to prevent commemorations taking place, academics said.

“The Chinese government is trying to wipe out the memory of Tiananmen Square, but the horror of what happened still resonates inside and outside China,” said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch.

“We don’t even know exactly who died in the massacre. The Chinese authorities need to punish those responsible, compensate the victims and allow those who fled the country to return home.”

Qi Zhiyong, who lost a leg when he was run over by an armed personnel carrier on the night of June 4, said he would mark the event mourning for those who died.

“My heart feels very grieved. Democracy has eluded us for such a long time,” he told AFP.

Many people in Beijing are too scared to talk about those fateful events, while others are more concerned with jobs and money in a country where economic reforms have rapidly transformed lives.

Some though refuse to forget.

“The police came to warn me and told me not to leave my home and not to invite friends to the house,” Zhou Duo, a former economics professor at Peking University who took part in the 1989 demonstrations, told AFP.

“But this year, like every year on June 4, I will make a hunger strike during the day.”

The Chinese leadership has shown no signs of changing its position on the crackdown, defending its actions this week as necessary for economic growth and China’s emergence on the world stage.

State media, which is banned from using the phrase “liusi” or June 4, predictably made no mention of the anniversary.

Analysts said Beijing was unlikely to change tack any time soon.

“This is still a taboo subject,” China specialist Joseph Cheng from City University in Hong Kong said.

“This can be very controversial and this can create a lot of divisions within the leadership. That’s why the subject must be suppressed, must be hidden from the public.”


Copyright © 2003 MCN International Pte Ltd
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Ideas From Sean-Paul

Sean-Paul posted this in the Everything Else Agonist thread about

To those of you who have so kindly offered to volunteer:

Here are some of my ideas:

1.) I like the ‘exact’ dimensions which divide Dailykos’s three columns. See for exact dimensions.

2.) I like the thin border line between them as well, although the color needs to be changed. Color appropriate to The current Agonist colors.

3.) I have a small banner (actually two graphics) that I would like placed in the top left column. I have included them. The file names are: agonist1.gif and agonist2.gif

4.) I want The Agonist font to be Palatino Linotype. In all sections. Everything.

5.) I have a list of categories but I do not know how to set them up.

6.) I want to install blogads to the right column.

7.) I want to have all of the admin, login, category, archives, menu etc. . . on the Left column. I want the menus to be similar to those at yet obviously a.) different colors and a bit different stylistically. Kos has been really cool about cribbing from him but I do not want to go overboard.

8.) And I want the the agonist1a.gif file to be in the browser bar.

9.) I want the scrolling bar to be like it is on the Agonist now.

10.) I want ten entries to show on the Front Page.

11.) I want three sections: Front Page, News Only, and Diaries. And I want these three choices in the main menu in one of the colums, not at the top where they are now.

Can any of you do this? Is it doable?



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From the Agonist BB discussion

 C on June 07, 2004, 10:29:09 pm:
“Now anyone can submit stories, but editors still choose what is posted to the front page. It was always supposed to be that way but the site got previewed before that was turned off. “

What editors have permissions set to choose what is posted on the front page, besides Sean-Paul?  I am an active Agonist front page editor on the regular Agonist but cannot see the story submission queue on scoop or vote on stories, etc.
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Ex-C.I.A. Aides Say Iraq Leader Helped Agency in 90's Attacks

Ex-C.I.A. Aides Say Iraq Leader Helped Agency in 90’s Attacks

(NYT) – Iyad Allawi, now the designated prime minister of Iraq, ran an exile organization intent on deposing Saddam Hussein that sent agents into Baghdad in the early 1990’s to plant bombs and sabotage government facilities under the direction of the C.I.A., several former intelligence officials say. The Iraqi government at the time claimed that the bombs resulted in many civilian casualties.
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Agonist Scoop Bug List

Agonist Scoop Bug List

Eventually, there will probably be a section for suggestions / bugs linked from the front page.  Until then, here is one place to post them.  

Some of the ones I list, I’m sure, are already known about … but just in case, when I note them, I will list them here as comments to this diary entry, until a bug list is formally made
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Summary Threads

Summary Threads

I posted this on BB thread several days ago:

A possible way to handle summary threads:

For those who can understand this tech-talk, here is a section from the Scoop Administration Guide …

The idea, as I understand it, that could help with summary threads is to make them subsections of a section, (to do this, a hierarchical section / topic system would have to be used. )

The moderators (especially Nick / Symblized) have worked on some hierarchical designs already, hoping to use them with Drupal previously.
For example, some can be done by country geographically, like, Africa as one section then Sudan as a subsection.  For USA there could be even more subsections of Homeland Security, etc. (Things like Everything Else can be handled too, outside of the geographical part)

A new summary thread would be created by creating a new subsection in an existing section.  This would have to be done by a site administrator ./ editor, depending how the permissions are set up.

One question to figure out is whether, if a story is posted in the Sudan subsection of the Africa section, for example, if it can also appear on the Front Page (rather than having to copy it over to do this) …

It looks like any such stories could appear also in a genreal News section, (as well as in the specialized subsection) if the News section was set up as the parent section of all the other subsections.  (Of course, this raises the issue of how to deal with non-news commentary sections, etc, or whatever)

I have not figured out yet whether in scoop you can assign multiple categories (sections) when initially posting an article.


4.16.1 Basic Sections and Topics

For basic separation of content, topics and simple sections are all that is needed. You’ll want to think carefully when creating your sections, because they can make content easy to find if they’re set up properly, but incredibly hard to find if not.

For most sites, you will want to split your sections based on the type of story that will go into it; for example, news, opinion or reviews. Such a split makes it instantly clear what will be found in each section. For more specialized sites, this may not be adequate; for example, a music or literature catalog may have sections for each genre, or if a single-genre catalogue, for each author.

You will have to decide what set of sections best suits your site, but it’s worth thinking carefully over. If you decide to change your sections later, you will need to re-file all existing stories into their new proper sections.

Topics are less constrained, but also have fewer options; for example, you can’t restrict posting to a give topic the way you can with sections.

4.16.2 Subsections and Stories in Multiple Sections

Sometimes you would prefer a heirarchical section structure, rather than a flat section structure as described above. To turn on Scoop’s subsection functionality, turn the variable enable_subsections on.

Stories filed in a heirarchical section behave much the same as stories filed in a flat section; that is, they are still posted to either the front page or the section. The navigation and display used to sort them is slightly different, however. If your index_template uses the box section_title_subsections to display the section title, the path to the current section will be displayed in a familiar slash-delimited format, with each parent section name displayed as a link to the parent section’s index page. There are no links to any child sections, however.

Subsections can have more than one parent section; in this case, the section title will have as many paths as the subsection has parents, recursively (that is, if a parent also has more than one parent section, it will also display all possible paths).

If you want a story to show up in multiple sections, you can create a subsection and set each section you want the story to appear in as parents, then set that subsection as “inheritable” in the section configuration for each parent. Any story filed in the child section will then appear in each of the parent sections, even though the story’s section link will be for the child section.

Yes, the inheritance is backward; parents get stories from their children.
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Admin Section: Hidden section for site admin discussion


Although this post appears on the front page for admins and editors, it is hidden from regular users and anonymous users (just doesn’t diplay.

I did this as a test, … if admins like it, then, ….

The admin section will be for administration discussion, such as changes that were made or planned, etc.

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Copy of Sean-Paul's Front Page Post

[This is a copy of Sean Paul’s Front Page post]

Now, About Belize

But first: this is your site. And I firmly believe that we all can make this site the premier global collaborative media site. A place where people follow the stories that make news because we are the news. We make it. We consume it. We use it. We are it. So, fill that submission queue up and go at it.

Now, about Belize: I’m on my way to there tomorrow with my wife. We’ll be there until late the 21st of June.

I’ll be checking in from time to time and may even write up a Diary entry or two about the country.

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User ability to edit own stories

I tested turning on registered user ability to edit own stories, but what happens is this causes the moderation queue to display, instead of “vote”, “edit” and there is a message saying that the user has requested editing help, etc.  (I tested submitting as regular user barnacle)

This was a bit complicated, so I turned back off the user ability to edit own stories, until we can figure out how we would want to handle that process.

Part of it is that the deafault check box when submitting a story is set to “request editorial help before posting”
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